The Movie Thread
I can't believe nobody's started this one yet. Here's a thread where we can discuss movies.


Last night I watched Oldboy (South Korea, 2003).. I have a friend who's been hounding me to see this for a long time, and his recommendation for this one was on the money.

It's a neo-noir tale of vengeance about a normal everyday guy (Oh Daesu) who is abducted, imprisoned, and seeks payback against his captor. The lead actor who plays Oh Daesu shows an incredible range of characters (loudmouth drunk, isolated madman, obsessive vigilante).

The cinematography is artful, dark and gritty, and there some unforgettable scenes. Some aspects of the plot are a bit implausible, but its gloriously twisted and generally well-sequenced. This one deserves multiple viewings to catch whatever I missed in the first go around. There are many themes to digest: the weight of Korean honor culture on the individual, the corrosive nature of vengeance, and the extent to which ignorance is bliss.

Amazing film, possibly one of my favorites.
Old Boy is great. ^

I've been on a David Ayer kick lately. Started with Street Kingz, a little known Keanu Reeves LA cop flick. Also co-stars Robert Whitaker. Then I moved on to End of Watch and am re-watching Fury right now.

Ayer's movies are not the best. The writing, dialogue and exposition can be heavy handed, and they can be really over the top Hollywood sometimes. But the common themes of bonds between men, riding in vehicles together for hours, rings true to me. And the pacing is always good; there are rarely dull moments.
There's no such thing as different but equal. 
-Dante Nero
I saw the new Shaft the other night. It was pretty good.
I think about the film In the Mood for Love (directed by Wong Kar Wai) a lot. I haven't watched it in a couple of years but it crosses my mind on a weekly basis.
[decided to rewrite this review and delete the other; my previous one was longwinded and autistic...]

Last night had a girl over and we watched Leave No Trace (USA, 2018). It was a really good film, very touching, and I think it will especially resonate with indepedent-minded guys who like the outdoors. If you like movies with action, activity, and dramatic turns of events, this one is not one for you. It's art house cinema, but not the unwatchable kind. The trailer and my comments below....

The movie begins as a story about a man who has been rendered partly dysfunctional from PTSD. He seeks to live a tranquil, itinerant life with his 14 year-old daughter in the woods outside of the influences of modern society. Circumstances require them to ramble about the Pacific Northwest, and as they relocate again and again the main theme of the film emerges: a coming of age tale about a daughter who questions the norms and conditions dictated by her father and yearns for a different life. 

I found the film great for three reasons: it's wholesome, it's opinionated and revealing without being ideological, and none of the characters are firmly typecast. There are no stern moral lessons or warnings, and there really are no 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. For those that believe that freedom of thought and the right to self-determination are of utmost value, this movie is a humble celebration of the motif:

We can think our own thoughts.

That very quote is stated twice by the two main characters on different occasions and under different circumstances -- part of the cleverness of the film. I enjoyed this one a lot, even more upon reflection and a night's sleep.
Last night I watched You Were Never Really Here (USA, 2017). It stars Joaquin Phoenix, who plays Joe, a hitman suffering from PTSD. The story takes place in Manhattan, and Joe is contracted to find and rescue a Senator's daughter, Nina, who has been abducted. The mission becomes more than what Joe was hired for, and Joe seeks to save Nina while keeping the weight of his PTSD trauma at bay.

The film is intense and has an unrelenting heavy pace. Director Lynne Ramsey masterfully weaves Joe's tortured, warped inner reality into the plot. Joaquin Phoenix delivers a superb performance as a tortured vet, and there are some memorable scenes of anguish.


I recently bought/watched Evengalion 3.33 "You Can (not) Redo".  Good flicker, 7/10, but what the fuck is up with no real play for the Third Impact?  Is that a number four lead in?  I would love to see The End incorporated in this flicker.
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I watched "Before Sunrise" (1995) the other night. I don't know if anyone has suggested that it is a game film, but I would like to. Before Sunrise is the story of two travelers who meet on the train on the way to Vienna. Ethan the American strikes up conversation with Celine, from France on the train. They are both young students currently not in relationships. Ethan really connects with Celine, and as the train pulls into Vienna asks her at the last moment to explore the city with him, as he has nothing to do, nowhere to stay, and his flight doesn't leave until tomorrow. Celine agrees and they start to explore Vienna, realizing that in a number of hours, <24 hours, they will probably never see each other again. I am a sucker for Linklater films, and this one is no exception. Long shots, very philosophical and deep dialogue, amazing character chemistry on screen, and conversations that are just next level, yet at the same time come off as extemporaneous and spontaneous. I've done enough describing the plot. So I will now conclude with my overall takeway for the film.

This is probably the best "romantic" film I have ever seen. It does not take the tone or screenwriting angle that leads you to believe it was written by some betamale or female. The human, inter-sex, dynamics are incredibly real and not at all PC or feminist. Both characters behave like real people, and not movie cutouts. As I said earlier, the on screen chemistry was fantastic. As I watched their relationship unfold on onscreen, I thought it was real life and I was seeing two real people falling in love. In a hollistic sense, I also like the films message: it is a message of taking risk, saying yes, and enjoying your humanity as time briskly marches on. In other words time suspends itself in this film as the couple grow closer.

That's about all I have to say about the film. I will add that I watched the two sequels, Before Sunrise, and Before Midnight, directly after finishing this film. For a romantic film, this probably tops out my list for romantic genre films at a high rating of 9.5/ 10. Otherwise just as a film, I would give Before Sunrise an 8.75. The plot is golden if you ask me, guy picks up girl on train, and has the time of his life.
Here are two good films, albeit modern classics.

Diner - follows the disparate lives and personalities of 4 friends who meet regularly at a local diner in the late 50s. The real value of the film is the contrasting way each deals with female relationships. Was an early vehicle for several stars, including Mickey Rourke, Steve Gutenberg, Kevin Bacon, Paul Reiser, a young Ellen Barkin. Worth if if just for Rourke's movie-theater seduction technique. Lots of red pill wisdom.

Pope of Greenwich Villiage - stars Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts (Julia's brother). Its about 2 brothers and their struggles to get ahead and their dreams for the future, while managing day to day reponsibilities. Includes a young Daryll Hanna. They end up getting involved in a heist, but the film is less about the heist than how they deal with their relationships and societal pressures to do the right thing. I won't ruin the ending but again lots of red pill wisdom.

When I was a younger man, I had heard of these films but they didn't interest me. I mean, what's so interesting about some guys at a diner? They got good reviews and all, I knew that, but I never knew they were relevant to my life. But younger guys should be watching films like this to get a fuller understanding of the nature of women, red pill in action, etc. And some of the characters in these films are pretty cool redpill dudes.

"Charlieeee....They took my fucking thumb!!!!"
Shawshank,godfather trilogy, American psycho,the good bad ugly trilogy, Scarface,Donnie brasco,fight club some of my list..
"Zombie Dawn" is actually a great zombie flick. it's not from Argentina not sure where it is from but it is in Spanish so you can learn the appropriate Spanish you will need in the post-Wu Flu zombie apocalypse. Nice action, nice story, traditional shambling zombies ala Romero, really nice backgrounds and narration. I would say one of the top zombie movies. In a side story, there are some bitchy females in this group of soldiers, and one of the soldiers has enough from the bitchy chicks and goes Syrian rapefugee on her. The rape is shown in a very slow and detailed way that you seldom see in English movies. It's not gratuitous either, kind of fits in the story, just another part of the zombie apocalypse. I was watching it with a chick here who is in to rough stuff like being tied up and choked I thought she would like it but she started to cry and had to turn it off. So maybe not a date movie.
Best picture winner this year, Parasite.

Yes, worth a watch.

Started watching it, was like "damn the tone of this film reminds me of snowpiercer (film)". Well, I look up the director of the film and it's the same director as Snowpiercer.

Plot: two families in Korea, one rich, one poor. Poor family schemes to get out of their shitty situation, comes up with the idea of getting hired as domestic help for the rich family. Hilarity ensues. Moments where you're not sure if you're supposed to be laughing or not. Anyway, enough about plot.

I think on some level the film is a commentary about post-dictatorial korea, and the impact that american/ materialistic/ individual culture has had on Korea. You watch the film, saying, "damn korea really has made it in terms of wealth, economic turnarounds etc", but at the same time maybe things have not changed for the better?

To conclude, yeah maybe it was hyped this year, but out of the few solid films I've seen released in the past year, I believe this is the best one. Another I really liked, was Ford vs. Ferrari.
"Everything I found out, I want to forget."

have been watching a few old faves during quarantine.

- The Deer Hunter - Robert De Niro & Christopher Walken, theme song is great Hank Marvin & The Shadows do a great version.
- Good Morning Vietnam - Robin Williams is brilliant in this
- Apocalypse Now - the dynamic in the Colonels Killgore (Robert Duval) and Kurtz (Marlin Brando) sums up the US war machine brilliantly.
- Heat - Pacino Vs De Niro is the shootout scene the best in movie history? listen through home theater is like you were there in the streets!
- Eyes Wide Shut - that part where Tom goes to the Rothschild mansion for the sex party is intense & so is the music!
- The Hunt For The Red October - before Alec Baldwin got fat and turned into a Commie America hater like De Niro did.
(04-22-2020, 11:26 AM)Marius Aëtius Wrote: have been watching a few old faves during quarantine.

- The Deer Hunter - Robert De Niro & Christopher Walken, theme song is great Hank Marvin & The Shadows do a great version.
- Good Morning Vietnam - Robin Williams is brilliant in this
- Apocalypse Now - the dynamic in the Colonels Killgore (Robert Duval) and Kurtz (Marlin Brando) sums up the US war machine brilliantly.
- Heat - Pacino Vs De Niro is the shootout scene the best in movie history? listen through home theater is like you were there in the streets!
- Eyes Wide Shut - that part where Tom goes to the Rothschild mansion for the sex party is intense & so is the music!
- The Hunt For The Red October - before Alec Baldwin got fat and turned into a Commie America hater like De Niro did.

Deer Hunter is indeed a classic. I visited the church from the film, also one of the lakes. The guys in that movie are so blue pilled. The one guy marries a chick who they all know is pregnant with another man's baby then goes off to war to get shot the rest go back to shitty wage slave mill jobs and fat chick marriages in butfuck, oh, the worse possible blue pill beta lives. Their only joys shooting deer when the leaves change color. But that is what it is like to be young. Then a bunch of commies made a movie about it and got rich that is Murica. It's a real chore though to watch that movie these days it's painful, I remember the tail end of the war, being a small child, and as an adult I spent a lot of time in the area in the states. I saw the movie twice once as a child I remember asking my father what is going on he was incapable of explaining he just said it is a movie for adults not children then I forgot about it largely, although I remembered the war scenes and my father's reactions to the movie. Then I saw it again a by chance year or two ago and saw the wedding and the shitty mill jobs and the deer hunting just amazing it all made sense.  I don't know if I can watch it again lol it's too long and too real, and the real horror of the movie is the marriage and slave jobs, not the war, those guys were all dead before they ever arrived in Vietnam.
@ Happy, thats a great summary i hadn't really thought of. i am not American nor was i around when the Vietnam war was going, but i like the way you have summed it up. 
i always wondered why they drunk so much alcohol especially at the wedding, your comments make a lot of sense of that.
from what i have learned when i have asked American guys online the state of PA is steel country (hence the NFL team) and alot of Soviet men & families were brought over by the US government to work these factories back then.
the director did a great job in portraying that particular town as a dark dirty dingy sh*thole, which i think was the point.
i have a sneaking suspicion the 59 Caddy has some symbolism in the film also.
a fellow online also told me the hunting scenes were filmed in Washington state, which from those scenes looks like a very beautiful place.
Watched Goodfellas for the first time the other day. I like the relaxing, short story after short story format of it. It's less annoying than the way Tarantino does short stories since it tries to keep linear and consistent, while giving us a fresh arc.
I saw Deer Hunter and didn't particularly enjoy it. The hype far exceeds what it delivers.

It probably got the hype because it was a realistic yet negative of view of certain slices of life, including the Viet Nam war.

About a decade later Platoon was made, and to me that is a much better film. It shows a lot of the futility of the war and the military, and the different views from different social classes.
Deer hunter is very dated and the 52 minute wedding scene is unnecessary.
Goodfellas is entertaining but also seriously outdated. The Sopranos was probably the most realistic portrayal of the mob ever put on film.

Il Capo dei Capi is a 6-part Italian series about Toto Riina and the Corleonesi. Excellent show if you don't mind subtitles.

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