Feeling old at 31
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I dont know what it is but I feel old at 31 and closing in on 32. I feel like women in their 20s are not checking for guys in their 30s. What have been your experiences with this for guys in their 30s
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#2
I'm 25 but I definitely see girls around my age with guys in their early 30's.
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#3
I had most lays starting from that age, just slowing down now (thanx corona). Age is a mental thing more than anything. Im 38 feeling damn young at heart but these thoughts creep in again. What help is saying "I could be dead tmw" or "I live my life". Or "As long as I have a dick, a face and can walk, Im in the game"
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#4
In my opinion, men can look ambiguously young till about 35. Men 28-33 it's hard to tell how old they are.
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#5
This is just a theory, but just throwing it out there.  And all of this is "generally speaking."

If you're a tall/well built guy, you can be attractive well into your old age. This is because your size allows you to come across as strong, as a protector, even though you may not be "pretty" anymore.

On the other hand, if you're a short/small guy, once those boyish good looks fade, then you may lack a certain gravitas, and that will make it harder to pull.  

What I'm saying is the "drop" in attractiveness for small men is much larger than the drop in attractiveness for larger men.

So if you're a small dude and don't think you'll have much upward social mobility past your 30's, you may want to cash in your chips and lock a girl down while the gettin's good.

On the other hand, if you're a larger guy, you simply have a longer runway.  And if you're a taller/larger guy with high upward social mobility after your 30's, then your runway is very, very long.

TLDR, if you're a small pretty boy, consider cashing your chips in early, if you're a tall/well built dude, it might be worth it to wait and see if you can win some more big hands before you cash out...because you can generally play the game longer.
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#6
While I'm in my mid-twenties, I know quite a few guys in their early or mid-thirties that are slaying it with younger chicks, and some of them told me that they're getting much better results now compared to when they were younger.

If you play your cards right, I guess that's around the time you will peak.

But the problem is that many guys when they're reaching their thirties have given up on themselves and become fat slumps without any potential.
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#7
I'm a few years older and I started thinking about aging. What I think it will do is limit my options with young women to some countries. At the same time accumulation of wealth and wisdom made me way more successful than I was in my 20s. Another thing that I noticed that my interests outside of gaming are changing. I mean things like hobbies and work. I used to be a computer geek, but those things don't interest me as much as they did in the past. At work I started thinking that I could move to management and it could be something that I would like.
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#8
I feel similarly to OP. I struggled through my 20s with shit self-esteem and social anxiety. Never had that wild stage of casual sex most people have in college. At 32, part of me is always thinking, "now is the time to kill it with women, I'm free and I still look decent" (I just ended a 7-year relationship). But the other half, the weak part, wants to say what's the fucking point, just stick with your old habits of watching porn...it's easier...focus your attention on money instead. There's definitely still a part of me that wants to live the life of a confident early twentysomething that I never lived though.

If I try to be objective, I would agree with other posts here pointing out that it's hard to even tell the difference in age if you're talking about 27-33.
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#9
(12-24-2020, 01:44 AM)longships Wrote: What I'm saying is the "drop" in attractiveness for small men is much larger than the drop in attractiveness for larger men.

Not really.

Smaller men who stay in shape have the advantage of appearing youthful longer.

Celeb example of this is Pharell.
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#10
250mg of test cypionate a week. Get down to about 12% body fat. You wont care about any of this.
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#11
I had my second wind when I hit 35.....
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(12-23-2020, 11:38 PM)MidWest Wrote: I dont know what it is but I feel old at 31 and closing in on 32. I feel like women in their 20s are not checking for guys in their 30s. What have been your experiences with this for guys in their 30s

I feel like I became noticeably less visible to early 20's American women around 33. I didn't feel or look old at that age, but I had an encroaching sense that, mentally, young adulthood was in the rearview.

In Mexico, however, I believe I still have a shot with early 20's girls that aren't from the upper class, but I speak Spanish and my physical features seem to be much more sought after there.

I had a really good run in Mexico from 33 - 35. 

Nowadays, at 36, I feel like the decline in my appeal to younger girls in the USA has continued in earnest, though I still get choosing signals and stolen glances from them from time to time. I've never connected with American girl anyways, so I can't really be bothered with the game here. 

As to more general age-related decline, staying on top of nutrition, fitness and grooming has become paramount for sense of wellbeing, mood, and energy levels.  

I may not be at my 'peak' any longer, but I think I've got a few good runs in me that will last me from late 30's through my 40's if I'm diligent in taking care of myself.
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#13
Where in Mexico are you at?
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#14
It depends where you are in the world. I'm 33 and fit, physically in the top of whatever location I'm in. I date 18-25 almost exclusively. The bonus is that I can also date really hot 30 year olds at this age, uncommon because who wants that, but I'm dating one 35yr in Colombia, big fake tits, gym girl (15yo child lol) who would be off limits to me if I was 25. At 33 you can lie online and say you're 29. I've not done this, but I think next time I delete my Tinder acocunt I will do just that becuase I think some 18-20 prob set their cap at 29/30.

Keep in mind, every year a man gets older there's one more year of women who are interested in him solely due to his age. But every year a woman gets older, there's one year of men who aren't interested because of her age. It's great to be a man.
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(12-25-2020, 10:26 PM)DVR Wrote: It depends where you are in the world. I'm 33 and fit, physically in the top of whatever location I'm in. I date 18-25 almost exclusively. The bonus is that I can also date really hot 30 year olds at this age, uncommon because who wants that, but I'm dating one 35yr in Colombia, big fake tits, gym girl (15yo child lol) who would be off limits to me if I was 25. At 33 you can lie online and say you're 29. I've not done this, but I think next time I delete my Tinder acocunt I will do just that becuase I think some 18-20 prob set their cap at 29/30.

Keep in mind, every year a man gets older there's one more year of women who are interested in him solely due to his age. But every year a woman gets older, there's one year of men who aren't interested because of her age. It's great to be a man.

DVR is correct here. Depends on where you are in the world.. I am almost 40 and can still pull in the 18-25 market. You will HAVE TO LIE about your age to keep girls coming in/around but as soon as you keep in shape and on trend you will have no major issues. Also make sure those grays are taken care of if you have them

This topic seems to come up often.. Guys LIE, KEEP your asses in shape and don't dress like an old head and you'll be good to go.
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#16
Extra emphasis on the last bullet point

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#17
I started to feel young at 31.
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#18
(12-24-2020, 12:09 AM)Johnstop Wrote: I'm 25 but I definitely see girls around my age with guys in their early 30's.

Big difference between 18-22 year olds and 25+

Once you get over 30 you will become less desirable for 18-22 year olds. I noticed an obvious diff online after 32. 

But you are still more than fine with the 25+ crowd.
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#19
Agreed but even for guys my age it's not common to date girls in that range, especially 18 to 20. Those girls are usually in college and deeply entrenched in their circles. At 25 you're probably a young professional living in a city so you won't even come across these girls in your day to day.

It's probably easier than if you're 30 but you still don't have a ton of access. I hooked up with college seniors at age 23 but only started pulling mid to late 20's once I turned 24.

A lot of late twenties and women in their 30's are fine as fuck so this doesn't bother me.
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#20
I'm 38 and the last girl I dated in Canada (Vancouver) was 26, a crazy Colombiana who grew up in Quebec so we spoke Spanish and French because her English sucked. I super liked her on Tinder lol she was pretty and thin, we definitely got some looks while we were out because I'd say she was objectively more attractive than me. I think the under 25s are difficult in Canada for guys my age but not impossible by any means, it's just the culture and mentality of young people in Canada is so different than what I'm used to that the juice simply isn't worth the squeeze.
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